Monday, February 20, 2012

....filled with a passionate intensity

 I'm not a Santorum guy but he really really drives some folks on the left nuts. Here are some random rantings from a website called thinkprogress.org mostly on a piece entitled:

Santorum Excommunicates 45 Million Christians: Mainline Protestants Are ‘Gone From The World Of Christianity’

 

  (Note the speech Santorum's quote was taken from was given in 2008-4 years ago!)

"republicans....are ignorant, hateful, prejuduce predators...for any Presidential candidate to campaingne against our right to reproduce(or not) they have got to be insane..."
At least they can spell.


Many posters like to put thoughts in others' minds, including these two:
"A barefoot pregnant women in every kitchen"! Just the thought is what gives them a little woody."

"More like, "my god IS a dick" syndrome. Remember, this dude worships the wrathful and conceited desert god who gave specific instructions for thoroughly smiting thine enemies, including the murder of thine enemies' pregnant women, and who tested the faithful by asking them to sacrifice their only son." Modern theology at its best.

This guy "works at King Richard's Faire":
"He speaks against, and down to, millions of US residents, he denigrates the sitting President in ways that would have him arrested for treason if the President were white, he OBVIOUSLY wants to destroy the "wall" that separates church and state...WHY hasn't he been removed from running for office? He is speaking treason, for all intents and purposes!"


My exchange with one "Ron Murray" a "top commenter" on thinkprogress.com:
 Ron: "Ricky suffers from a megalomania that should land him in a cell wearing a straitjacket, but the republican brand is so perverted and filthy with treason and bigotry that the radical right is actually supporting this traitor to everything real Americans hold dear. Burn him as a witch, that would be some ironic justice."

 I asked : "Hello. How did you get to be "top commenter"? Read over your remark. It is so way over the top as to be demented in itself. You want to "burn" a man, but he is the megalomaniacal one? Honestly, buddy, are you that consumed with hatred?

 Ron answered:"Barry Tilles, hatred? i'm just defending the USA and the Constitution. if that doesn't interest you, you're the one consumed with hatred. Santorum is an enemy of all that America stands for, and executing him would be an excellent start to cleaning up the filth and disease that the Christian Taliban is fully infected with. My remarks are not only reasonable, they are patriotic. Get over yourself, and read your Constitution, or have somebody read it to you. You're acting exactly like the "Good Germans" that thought Hitler was okey-dokey."


I also commented: "You write things such as (from below, and submitted without apparent irony): "but the republican brand is so perverted and filthy with treason and filthy with treason and bigotry that the radical right is actually supporting this traitor to everything real Americans hold dear. Burn him as a witch, that would be some ironic justice..." and you call Santo "deeply insane"? You better plug yourself in, pal. This (the comments here) is negative writing at its worst. By negative writing I mean words that do the opposite of elucidate or clarify.Of course Santo is guilty of the same thing (negative writing, as any topic concerning religion is by its nature prone to the squishiness that characterizes n.r.) (By the way, you did not excise the earlier iteration of this reply, did you? That wouldn't be very "progressive", to quash a slightly dissenting voice, now would it?)"


Ron's reply:
"Barry Tilles, yes, I call him, and his supporters, deeply insane. And your silly, puerile argument is that of the kind of idiot who would follow such a destructive charlatan into the fascist hell he's proposing. On top of that, you're paranoid, placing you nicely into the whacko right wing."

My retort:"Stop it right now. I just had put up a comment and it disappeared. I don't know what your policies are regarding remarks. If Repubs are as evil or insane as you submit perhaps their offerings here would be best eliminated. Look, I only stumbled here through James Taranto's "Best of the Web Today" column on WSJ and I couldn't believe my eyes: hyperbolic invective and hate-filled jeremiads verging on the comedic - sorry. Honestly I'm not a big Santorum guy. I like Newt, but hey who cares? I used to be a lefty believe it or not. But let me ask you - when you go to Thanksgiving dinner at mom's are you hostile to those who may be your right wing relations?
Peace brother man"
 To which Mr Murray replied:"Barry Tilles, Newt is as evil and sick as Santorum, and either one would be a major disaster for most Americans. and, yes, I am hostile to my wingnut relatives. This is self-defense, and you as*holes have gone to far in Hitler's direction for we patriots to ignore."

Could not help myself, but my efforts kept getting mysteriously deleted " Yeah Hello Ron Murray, having "trouble" replying on your thread below so......Okay. Howdy Ron and thank you, I think you toned down the animus a bit. First re Gingrich, I like him because he understands the New Space Economy, which industry I think could revive the American economy, and the American spirit, not through a big Soviet-style "program" a la Apollo, but in the way that the transcontinental RR was developed or the organic way the aerospace industry blossomed. (See David Zimmerman's wonderful blog beyondtheblack.com or the spaceshow.com or you can listen to these guys often on the Batchelor show.) Newt has the smarts the skill-set and the chops. With Newt what you see is what you get, unlike Mitt who is a bit of a cypher.

Anyway I'm not here to sell you on Newt Gingrich obviously. But man oh man please get some perspective. Nobody's out to hurt you. I understand how these website chat-rooms work: each writer wants to be perceived as the most true-blue whatever - progressive, conservative, libertarian - it depends on the identity of the site of course, and the most pugnacious poster gets the most recommends, likes, Top Commenter badge and the like. So, I am sure your more violent threats are bits of bombastic bluster. If not, for the love of Pete, don't do it, you will regret it. Your loved ones will regret it.

I see by your careful attention to syntax, spelling, and punctuation you are an intelligent man, and so worth engaging.

As I said, I was left at one time. Left of left. But more than I left the left I think the left left the left. That is, the liberty- loving, free-spirited, dope-smoking, sex-happy intellectuals of the 60's have become the stiff-assed sanctimonious sour-grapes dried up old busybody poopheads of the current times, who, not only don't laugh at a joke, apparently can't even recognize one.
Good luck"

Case closed I guess


Another "top commenter" Harriet Hoff Skjerly, keeps it pithy:
"This man is such a POS....." (that standalone got 24 likes, so much for deep analysis.)
Not sure where this guy stands:
 georgeisbowling (signed in using yahoo)
sandyok1950 Fear, and fear well... the New World Order IS the New Dark Ages!!! We don't burn witches anymore, only sanity goes on the pyre... or into a noose!

Babe, do those legs go all the way up?
"Sick. Just sick. I'm stunned that in 2012, Rich White Men are still telling us girls that we need to keep our legs shut. It's just more stark evidence of the War on Women. Have we truly made such little progress in women's rights that men think it's okay to tell us to "put an aspirin between our legs" for birth control? And LAUGH about it? The hypocrisy, the utter disdain for women, is shocking and disgusting. And then to say that WE'RE the ones obsessed with sex - those of us who want these pigs OUT OF OUR BEDROOMS! No, we're not obsessed with sex - we just don't want YOU telling us what we can and cannot do with our own bodies!"

 This guy has my complete respect:
"Rick's idea of being good stuarts of the earth is to run a thousand miles of pipeline carrying extreemly toxic materials through uncontaminated aquafir­."

the following from huff post "SUPER USER" alkamm:
Santorum's position is consistent with what his own church calls heresy. His church, correctly decided it so after studying the pernicious effects of capitalist
­s who argue that they should be allowed to exert their robust intentions on extracting every mineral, despoiling every river and lake, cutting down every forest, burning every ounce of oil.

Other bits from puff host:
"Santorum's "Christianity" is one totally devoid of humanity."  
"... [Santorum] is saying is it is not the government
­s job to protect our natural resources form pillaging corporatio­ns and energy companies, GOD will do that...
From MoveOn.org's facebook page (their message board was shut down for antisemitic rants):
  
Punctuation and spelling are so 1%:
...the law is difficult to understand. there are two different types of stake holders. those that every once in a while visit the establishment they partially own and those that don't. it is incredible but it's the second type of enterpreneur the one that is basically a parassyte to the system. owning a third of the ford capital of a fourth of proceter and gamble don't change that much the bank report. so please try to understand that also in america you have the sort of enterprises that are born on good ideas and that also played a great role in innovation. unfortunately confusing workers needs, consumer needs and market needs is common and it is really bad. protecting the market value sometimes protects a bussiness image, but the image of an established bussiness is not its profit. let's take super zuckerman. if he's proof selling its info then he's helping out the intelligence. if he cannot fix the php protocol no problem, it is everybody's. but then basically windows is freeware around the world. u can lend mac os installation cds as much as u want and, to sum to that, google is banner free. and facebook got ads that give some sort of a revenue to a single enterpreneur who is a genius and an innovator just like mass computing gates and rely me scrapple from the apple. so zuckerman, nor these other corporations trade their stocks. but each of them can use their info for some sort of a private intelligence service. it is a risk, there's an evidence they haven't done so. they're young though and many capitals out there aren't this committed. so please try to understand that small firms are started by someone that is still working there, financial revenue is made of bollock. u can even pretend you're the king of england when you're rich enough, hollywood dopers believe everyhting looks neat...
Finally:

 "dogmatic pedantic closed mindedness is part of the GOP"
So glad those attributes are not part of the liberal left.
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